Notes:
TITL Muma of Windham Township, Norfolk County, Ontario, Canada
AUTH R. Robert Mutrie
R. Robert Mutrie
Editor of "The Long Point Settlers Journal"
244 Maple Leaf Avenue North,
Ridgeway, Ontario, Canada L0S 1N0
Web Site:
http://www.norfolkgenealogy.com
Sources:
1) Genealogy sheets by Kathryn Cassels and Jean Muma at the Brant County Historical Society, Brantford;
2) Brock District Marriage Register;
3) James L. McCallum, Corlis Family, p.p. (Monkton, ON: 1997), p. 30;
4) Register of Thomas Cummings, JP;
5) Wesleyan Methodist Baptisms;
6) Gravestone in Baptist Church Cemetery, St. George;
7) Minutes of the London District Court, p. 78, 79, 80;
8) Abstracts of Deeds Register of Windham Twp;
9) Talbot District Marraige Register
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TITL Family Group Record - 5028938
AUTH Patricia Redd
PUBL Date prepared: August 1990
Hand written Family Group Record submitted by:
Patricia Redd
c/o Noel Devey
1128 S. 1200 E. #20
Kaysville, Utah 84037
(801) 451-6244
Ledigble, Good
REPO
Ogden, Utah
CALN 5028938
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TITL Family Group Record - 5028938
AUTH Patricia Redd
PUBL Date prepared: August 1990
Hand written Family Group Record submitted by:
Patricia Redd
c/o Noel Devey
1128 S. 1200 E. #20
Kaysville, Utah 84037
(801) 451-6244
Ledigble, Good
REPO
Ogden, Utah
CALN 5028938
MEDI Microfilm
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PLAC GEM index No. (400)
"GEM History" is refering to George E. Muma #73 in this database.
"GDM" is refering to Gordon Douglas Muma of this database
"DMM" refers to Douglas Mumma ( Internet
http://www.mumma.org )
(GEM history): Research shows that Jacob Muma and his wife Betsy
(probably Elizabeth) were born and married in Germany. By calculation,
they were probably born about about 1750, as their first child on record
was born in the USA in 1775. They apparently came to Pennsylvania and
setled in Lancaster County. Since one of their sons was born in
Frederick County, Virginia, which is just across the state line, it wou
apear that they spent some time in Virginia. From Penn., they moved to
Buffalo of the Niagara District [N.Y.], and then went into Canada,
possibly going into the Dumfries Territory. [GEM lists their first chi
as Samuel - born Sept. 10, 1775. The DMM database lists Samuel's birth
date Sept. 10, 1784. There were supposed to have been two more
daughters, but GEM history has no record of them.
LDS History Center:
Jacob Muma who married an "Elizabeth" (b. abt. 1754).
Found information about "Betsey" (b. 1806, Wellington, Ontario), daught
of Jacob and Elizabeth. The GEM history Jacob and Elizabeth had a
daughter "Betsey," who could have been born in Ontario, but Elizabeth
(if born 1756) would have been 50 years old at that time. Also found
Samuel (b. 1775) with same parents.
** Further research at the History Center revealed that Jacob and
Elizabeth had two girls in the family, but no record of given names cou
be found. Jean Muma's notes from the Brant County Historical Society li
an Eve and another daughter, but no dates. The LDS fische Nr. 5028938
Page 15-1 lists the dates as abt. 1808 and abt. 1810. The dates are
probably incorect due to the age of Elizabeth the mother.
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"GEM History" is referring to George E. Muma in this database.
"GDM" is referring to Gordon Douglas Muma of this database
"DMM" refers to Douglas Mumma ( Internet
http://www.mumma.org )
(This is a quote from Alfred Muma)
"Alfred's grandparents were Jacob and Betsey who were natives of Germany where they were reared and wed" They immigrated from the Fatherland to the USA locating in Pennsylvania later moving to Canada where they died. - source notes from Kathryn (Muma) Cassells.
(GEM history): Research shows that Jacob Muma and his wife Betsy (probably Elizabeth) were born and married in Germany. By calculation, they were probably born about about 1750, as their first child on record was born in the USA in 1775. They apparently came to Pennsylvania and settled in Lancaster County. Since one of their sons was born in Frederick County, Virginia, which is just across the state line, it would appear that they spent some time in Virginia. From Pennsylvania, they moved to Buffalo of the Niagara District [N.Y.], and then went into Canada, possibly going into the Dumfries Territory. [George E. Muma (GEM) lists their first child as Samuel - born Sept. 10, 1775. The DMM database lists Samuel's birth date Sept. 10, 1784. There were supposed to have been two more daughters, but GEM history has no record of them.
** Research at the LDS Family History Center revealed that Jacob and Elizabeth had two girls in the family, but no record of given names could be found. Jean Muma's notes from the Brant County Historical Society list an Eve and another daughter, but no dates. The LDS fische Nr. 5028938 Page 15-1 lists the dates as abt. 1808 and abt. 1810. The dates are probably incorrect due to the age of Elizabeth the mother.
Data source was the Muma Family Tree website which is no longer active.
****************** Comments by Doug Mumma doug@mumma.org *****************
There has been much confusion about the Jacob and Betsy as to where they were born and where they raised their children. It has been suggested that they were born in Germany where they married prior to immigrating to America. Others say they were born in America. I have found not found compelling evidence to support either position.
The birth location of their children is also confusing, including whether all of these children are theirs. Census and death records only add to the confusion. The predominent birth locations listed are Pennsylvania, Virginia and New York. Most data suggests that the Canadian Mumas migrated to Canada around 1800.
DNA testing - 2 descendants of Jacob Muma (d. 1876) and 1 descendant of Samuel Muma (d: 1865), who were son of Jacob & Betsy, participated in the MUMMA Surname DNA project. From their results I can conclude that the DNA signiture of these men closely match the MOMMA ancestral haplotype "fingerprint" meaning they are genetic Mommas/Mummas. In fact, they closely match the haplotype of immigrant Leonard Mumma which raises the question, was Jacob Muma a descendant of Leonard Muma. After carefully looking at the children of Leonard and his sons, I do not think there is any place that Jacob Muma could be attached. So where does this branch fit in? I don't have that answer. It is possible that Jacob & Betsy did come to Ameria as immigrants and their entry was never recorded. There is also the possibility that Jacob descends from immigrant Johann Lorentz Momma who we know had children, but none of them have ever been identified.
Spouse: Betsy , b. ABT 1754
Married: ABT 17742
Children:
John Muma, b. ABT 1775 Germany/NY/VA, d. AFT 1851
Jacob Muma, b. BET 1776 AND 1781 NY or VA, d. 27 SEP 1876 St. George, South Dumfries Twp., Brant Co., Ontario, Canada
Christian Muma, b. 8 AUG 1779 PA, d. 12 JUL 1863 Dumfries South Twp., Brant Co., Ontario, Canada
Eve Muma, b. ABT 1781
Samuel Muma, b. 10 SEP 1784 PA or VA, d. 1865 Drumbo, Ontario, Canada
Henry Muma, b. 1791 VA
Betsey Muma, b. 12 DEC 1794, d. 15 DEC 1840 Freeport, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo County, Ontario, Canada
George Clark Muma, b. 2 SEP 1797 NY, d. 18 AUG 1880 Allegan Co., MI
Michael Muma, b. 2 JUL 1800 Crowland Twp., District of Niagara, Canada West, d. 24 SEP 1873 Arkona, Warwick Twp., Lambton Co., Ontario, Canada
Absalom Muma, b. ABT 1804 Wellington, Ontario, Canada
Sources:
Title: Muma of Windham Township, Norfolk County, Ontario, Canada
Author: R. Robert Mutrie
Publication: 244 Maple Leaf Avenue North, Ridgeway, Ontario, Canada L0S 1N0
Note: R. Robert Mutrie, Editor of "The Long Point Settlers Journal"
Web Site:
http://www.norfolkgenealogy.com
Sources:
1) Genealogy sheets by Kathryn Cassels and Jean McCallum, Corlis Family, p.p. (Monkton, ON: 1997), p. 30
4) Register of Thomas Cummings, JP
5) Wesleyan Methodist Baptisms
6) Gravestone in Baptist Church Cemetery, St. George
7) Minutes of the London District Court, p. 78, 79, 80
8) Abstracts of Deeds Register of Windham Twp
9) Talbot District Marraige Register
Title: Family Group Record - 5028938